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Mention in Q about GnR recording in 1989

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Post by Surge Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:04 pm

Stumbled upon a small mention in Q in November 2018 entitled "The Beastie Boys Chronicles":

"The difficult second album, personified
Post-Licensed To Ill, the Beasties almost imploded. Yauch quit Def
Jam, Diamond started playing in another band and Horovitz’s mother
died. He moved to LA. “We were in a parallel universe,” recalls
Diamond. “We were sick of what we’d become. Thank god we got a
break. That could’ve been permanent.” Simmons threatened to freeze
their earnings if they didn’t make another record. “It forced us to
come back together and say, ‘Fuck you!’ All we had was each other.

Horovitz was the motivator. He looks at Diamond. “How d’you feel
about that, Mike?” Diamond whines: “We had to get out of New York.
Our friends were assholes, we were assholes.” In LA, they signed with
Capitol. “We did every cliché, spent money we didn’t have on studios
and cars, nothing sustainable.” They set up at the Record Plant,
“working” adjacent to Guns N’ Roses and spent the weekends at glitzy
parties, brushing shoulders with Bob Dylan and Dolly Parton.

Now Paul's Boutique, their second album, was released on July 25, 1989. The record was recorded at the Record Plant, and their third was not done there, so it adds up.

I'm more into the story of Appetite than Illusions, but this would indicate GnR were at the Record Plant spring 1989. That's earlier than I thought would be the case... Just thought I'd leave it here as it might help with dating certain things.
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Post by Soulmonster Mon Oct 07, 2019 8:25 am

Surge wrote:Stumbled upon a small mention in Q in November 2018 entitled "The Beastie Boys Chronicles":

"The difficult second album, personified
Post-Licensed To Ill, the Beasties almost imploded. Yauch quit Def
Jam, Diamond started playing in another band and Horovitz’s mother
died. He moved to LA. “We were in a parallel universe,” recalls
Diamond. “We were sick of what we’d become. Thank god we got a
break. That could’ve been permanent.” Simmons threatened to freeze
their earnings if they didn’t make another record. “It forced us to
come back together and say, ‘Fuck you!’ All we had was each other.

Horovitz was the motivator. He looks at Diamond. “How d’you feel
about that, Mike?” Diamond whines: “We had to get out of New York.
Our friends were assholes, we were assholes.” In LA, they signed with
Capitol. “We did every cliché, spent money we didn’t have on studios
and cars, nothing sustainable.” They set up at the Record Plant,
“working” adjacent to Guns N’ Roses and spent the weekends at glitzy
parties, brushing shoulders with Bob Dylan and Dolly Parton.

Now Paul's Boutique, their second album, was released on July 25, 1989. The record was recorded at the Record Plant, and their third was not done there, so it adds up.

I'm more into the story of Appetite than Illusions, but this would indicate GnR were at the Record Plant spring 1989. That's earlier than I thought would be the case... Just thought I'd leave it here as it might help with dating certain things.

Thanks! There are other quotes too that indicate they had the studio booked in the spring of 1989 and did some recording. I have added your reference here: https://www.a-4-d.com/t4046p120-the-history-in-their-own-words#15959
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Post by ludurigan Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:11 am

Yes, there is an Izzy interview where he plainly says that they "recorded those albums three times" or something to that effect.

They must have done SOME or A LOT of recording of Illusion songs in 1989 and 1990 before Steven left.

Then they tried some drummers -- which is also something that no one talks much about -- and I am pretty sure they must have played the new songs with whatever drummer they were trying...
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Post by Soulmonster Fri Jun 12, 2020 9:30 am

Yes, I am sure they recorded the trials with Maples and Chambers, at the vest least to be able to send tapes to Axl so he could take a listen. Or maybe Axl left it entirely up to Duff and Slash to make that decision?

Here's the chapter on the replacement drummers: https://www.a-4-d.com/t4989-11-1990-moving-forward-with-a-new-lineup#19370
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Post by ludurigan Fri Jun 12, 2020 11:40 am

wow very interesting! i had never read so much about the replacement drummers, i didnt know all this info was available with (mostly) axl and also duff and slash openly talking about them and saying their names on interviews! this site is PRICELESS
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