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When did Axl meet Ice Cube?

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Post by Wilco Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:48 am

Asking because the way Axl looks is throwing me off. The main thing is hair is a LOT shorter than his famously extremely long hair of 1990-1992, and he looks a bit older than 1991-1993 too. It could be 92 or early 93, but is it possible it could also be 1994?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CB7Vx3VW0AAIbJQ.jpg

Any idea when? Thanks !
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Post by Blackstar Mon Oct 17, 2022 8:43 pm

I don't know, I haven't found any reliable information on the date and context of the picture (although most sites caption it as being from 1989 or 1990).

I don't think that Axl looks necessarily older in this picture; it could be just his face expression and the light. As for his hair, he may have had a layered haircut so only the front hair was shorter.

Btw, I realized that the picture was tweeted by Ice Cube - I don't know if it had circulated before.

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Post by Wilco Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:05 pm

In the bit of research I’ve done, it has to be after 1991 as the SOX logo of the cap Cube is wearing was only introduced in 1991. So that precludes anytime pre 1991 or 1992
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Post by Wilco Mon Oct 17, 2022 11:15 pm

Blackstar wrote:I don't know, I haven't found any reliable information on the date and context of the picture (although most sites caption it as being from 1989 or 1990).

I don't think that Axl looks necessarily older in this picture; it could be just his face expression and the light. As for his hair, he may have had a layered haircut so only the front hair was shorter.

Btw, I realized that the picture was tweeted by Ice Cube - I don't know if it had circulated before.


Thing is even when Axl wore layered cuts, the front was always left long.

Google any 1991 pic, or any 1992 pic up to December 1992 through early 1993 (when he had gotten a haircut) by Argentina 1993 it was long all around again. But then in very late 1993 or early 1994 he had it cut again shorter than ever before, all around

In court pictures from October 1993 his hair is long and full around, the bangs are very long and without any thinning or choppiness

If I personally had to guess I would say this photo dated anywhere from December 1993 onward, especially because of the necklace
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Post by ludurigan Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:20 pm

I remember seeing this photo before

I am 99,9% sure of that (seriously)

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Post by ludurigan Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:29 pm

Yeah I was right I had seen this photo before!

Here is a cool 2010 story on it:

Dr. Dre Was Shocked When Axl Rose Wore N.W.A. Hat In Video (Feel Numb, January 15, 2010)

Ice Cube was from rap group NWA (Niggaz Wit Attitudes), along with Dr. Dre, Eazy-E, DJ Yella and MC Ren.

As you guys probably know Axl wore NWA hats on Use Your Illusion Tour

NWA, on the other hand, recorded a song named "Appetite for Destruction".

And -- this is pretty cool -- according to this Matt Sorum 2018 Instagram post, "We did a track with NWA n GNR that was never released".

I also remember reading about the recording of this track many, many years ago and I believe there was no Axl involvement on it, it was just Slash and Matt (and maybe Duff?) with the rap guys

But I could be wrong
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Post by ludurigan Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:51 pm

Some more info on GNR-NWA connection

(not Axl on this one)

According to "Slash Paradise", Slash appears uncredited on the Eazy-E's track "Luv 4 Dem Gangsta'z"

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Beverly Hills Cop 3 soundtrack (1994)
Slash on "Luv 4 Dem Gangsta'z"
Notes: even if he is not credited anywhere, Slash plays on this rap song with Eazy-E.

source: Slash's Guest Apppearances [SlashParadise.com]
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Post by ludurigan Tue Oct 18, 2022 1:55 pm

And this seems to settle the matter of be the day when Axl met Ice Cube the guys from NWA.

[Correction: the sentence above mentioning Axl meeting Ice Cube along with NWA members but Ice Cube left NWA in 1989 though so he probably/most likely/certainly wasn't present on this day]

The guys from NWA met Axl at the LA Forum -- this is most likely on the 1991 shows -- according to this:

About the time GNR nearly toured with NWA

But that doesn't mean the photo is from 1991


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Post by Blackstar Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:00 pm

ludurigan wrote:And this seems to settle the matter of when Axl met Ice Cube

The guys fro NWA met Axl at the LA Forum -- this is most likely the 1991 shows -- according to this:

ABOUT THE TIME GN'R NEARLY TOURED WITH NWA

But that doesn't mean the photo is from 1991
Ice Cube left NWA in 1989 though (and was at odds with the remaining members for years), so he couldn't have been at the Forum in 1991.

This picture is from the LA Forum apparently

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But not the one of Axl with Ice Cube.
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Post by ludurigan Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:03 pm

Blackstar wrote:
ludurigan wrote:And this seems to settle the matter of when Axl met Ice Cube

The guys fro NWA met Axl at the LA Forum -- this is most likely the 1991 shows -- according to this:

ABOUT THE TIME GN'R NEARLY TOURED WITH NWA

But that doesn't mean the photo is from 1991

Ice Cube left NWA in 1989 though (and was at odds with the remaining members for years), so he couldn't have been at the Forum in 1991.

This picture is from the LA Forum apparently

When did Axl meet Ice Cube? Cubenw10

But not the one of Axl with Ice Cube.

I didn't know that Ice Cube wasn't in the band in 1991!

Sorry for the mistake!

I believe that the picture is from the day they tracked the Easy-E/Slash/Duff/Matt song?
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Post by Soulmonster Tue Oct 18, 2022 3:30 pm

Here's what I have written about GN'R and NWA guys: https://www.a-4-d.com/t4989-11-1990-moving-forward-with-a-new-lineup#19383
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Post by ludurigan Thu Oct 20, 2022 8:39 pm

Great info as usual @Soulmonster and @Blackstar !
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Post by ludurigan Fri Apr 07, 2023 7:12 pm

Some additional info on the Eazy-E/GN'R songs from longtime friend Arnold “Bigg A” White

When did Axl meet Ice Cube? 3e548c4c-ff74-4233-8c6b-d68e75ba05c9_bigg+a+%282%29

Bigg A says there's more unreleased music out there, including a collaboration with some rock legends.

“There is unreleased music still out there,” Bigg A confirms. "We know for a fact that he had two or three or four reels in his car when he went to the hospital. Those reels came up missing. He had songs with Slash from Guns n’ Roses — he had songs with Guns n’ Roses on those reels. Those reels have been found 'cause they wound up in Canada. That’s a whole other story, but what happened to them [since], I don’t know. I don’t know if the estate got them, but there is unreleased music, and Yella has some, I know for a fact that there is some unreleased acapella vocals, that he was working on some records with a couple of producers I worked with and last I heard was that they were up in Dre’s studio.”


Source: Eazy-E Has 'Reels' of Unreleased Music: 'He Had Songs With Guns N’ Roses'
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