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Post by Blackstar Thu Oct 05, 2023 4:19 am




October 8, 2023
Aftershock Festival - Discovery Park, Sacramento, CA, USA
Setlist:
01. It's So Easy
02. Bad Obsession
03. Chinese Democracy
04. Slither
05. Mr. Brownstone
06. Pretty Tied Up
Link Wray's "Rumble" intro
07. Welcome to the Jungle
08. Reckless Life
09. Perhaps
10. Hard Skool
11. Better
12. Double Talkin' Jive
13. You Could Be Mine
14. Absurd
15. Rocket Queen
16. Live and Let Die
17. Estranged
18. Down On The Farm
19. T.V. Eye
20. Civil War (Voodoo Child)
Slash Guitar Solo
21. Sweet Child O' Mine
22. November Rain
23. Knockin' On Heaven's Door
24. Nigtrain
25. Paradise City

Date:
October 8, 2023.

Venue:
Discovery Park (Aftershock Festival).

Location:
Sacramento, CA, USA.

Line-up:
Axl Rose: Vocals and piano
Slash: Lead and rhythm guitar, and backing vocals
Richard Fortus: Rhythm and lead guitar, and backing vocals
Duff McKagan: Bass and backing vocals
Dizzy Reed: Piano and backing vocals
Frank Ferrer: Drums
Melissa Reese: Keyboard and backing vocals

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Post by Blackstar Fri Oct 06, 2023 3:34 pm

TV reports about the festival from yesterday and today:



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Post by Blackstar Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:38 am

The show is in progress. I will updated the setlist later.
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Post by Soulmonster Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:34 am

Melissa has now played more shows in GN'R than Izzy ever did (285 vs 284).
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Post by Blackstar Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:17 pm

Setlist updated.
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Post by Blackstar Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:19 pm

Duff on Instagram: I think I see Mars! Rock on and THANK you @aftershockfestival !!! What an amazing crowd, right? If you were there, you know! Photo @deljamesgang



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Post by Blackstar Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:33 pm

Perhaps

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Post by Blackstar Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:32 pm

Review in Riff Magazine:
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REVIEW: Guns N’ Roses close out Aftershock Festival with mammoth set

By Mike DeWald

SACRAMENTO — The final day of Aftershock Festival was all about headliners Guns N’ Roses. The biggest rock band on the bill, which also included the likes of Queens of the Stone Age, got a whopping three hours on stage to close out the four-day event and the excitement built throughout the day—even as the band showed up a good 30 minutes later than expected. All was forgotten once Axl Rose, Slash, Duff McKagan and crew hit the stage, exploding right out of the gate with “It’s So Easy.”

GNR played more than two dozen songs. Rose was a spark plug. The 61-year-old nimbly worked both sides of the stage and had plenty in the tank to deliver his powerful screams.


After “Bad Obsession” and “Chinese Democracy,” the band worked in a cover of Velvet Revolver’s “Slither.” That band featured several Guns N’ Roses members but with Stone Temple Pilots’ Scott Weiland singing. Rose made it his own.

After crowd favorite “Mr. Brownstone” and “Pretty Tied Up,” it was time to roll out a classic. As the band broke out seminal hard rocker “Welcome to the Jungle” early on, tens of thousands of cell phones shot up into the air to record the moment and sing along. Appetite For Destruction was the most represented album in the set with seven tracks.

The stage was well-lit but the production relatively simple for Guns N’ Roses compared to the weekend’ prior headliners. Massive video screens show 3D renderings. Keyboardists Melissa Reese and Dizzy Reed, and drummer Frank Ferrer were situated on a large riser at he back of the stage.

Multiple times, GNR rolled into extended jams that featured Slash’s virtuosic guitar work. Watching him was alone worth the price of admission. Each bend of the strings and flash of wah-wah pedal was so distinct, while these jam sessions offered plenty of space for him to operate. At one point, the guitarist even played a talk box. McKagan looked stoic and determined, even singing lead on of The Stooges “T.V. Eye.”

Songs like “You Could Be Mine” and “Hard Skool” kept the pace moving while “Better” brought a distinctly modern rock energy. With Reed and Reese, Guns N’ Roes have a few extra tools that were especially evident on Chinese Democracy‘s “Better.”

While the first half of the set offered plenty of material for diehard fans, with Rose in a chatty mood, the second half was hit-heavy. Rose went through enough costume changes to challenge Taylor Swift.

It’s tough to compete with the rock power ballad trifecta of “Sweet Child o’ Mine,” “November Rain” and “Knocking on Heaven’s Door.” Rose actually managed the high notes better than one might expect. While he’s not in his 20s anymore, he had a good sense of timing for pushing the limits and that translated into strong results.

Guns N’ Roses closed out with a one-two punch of the rumbling “Nighttrain” and massive singalong “Paradise City.”

https://riffmagazine.com/festivals/aftershock-20231008-guns-n-roses/
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Post by Blackstar Mon Oct 09, 2023 5:15 pm

TV report (ABC10 Sacramento):

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Post by Blackstar Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:39 pm

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Post by Blackstar Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:01 am

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Post by Blackstar Tue Oct 10, 2023 4:40 am

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Post by Blackstar Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:09 am

It's So Easy



It's So Easy and Bad Obsession

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Post by Blackstar Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:15 am

Chinese Democracy and Slither



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Post by Blackstar Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:25 am

Down On The Farm and Better



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Post by Blackstar Tue Oct 10, 2023 5:26 am

Live and Let Die and Civil War



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Post by Blackstar Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:07 am

Review in Merced County Times, Oct. 9:
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Guns N’ Roses takes Aftershock fans home on final Day 4 of festival

By Jonathan Whitaker

Here’s the straight goods: The fans who weathered the unforgiving sun, the intense but merciful Rancid mosh pits, the relentless crowd surf alley, and the waiting, and the anticipation, and all of the above in cramped quarters … were treated to one hell of a Sunday show by Guns N’ Roses — the headliners of the entire four-day Aftershock festival at Discovery Park in Sacramento.

Axl Rose, Duff McKagan, Richard Fortus, Frank Ferrer, Dizzy Reed, Melissa Reese, and Slash brought it.

To everyone in sight.

Who at Aftershock, on Day 4, was not in the crowd to see GNR?

And for who knows how long. It was GNR on steroids. Hours of music. Something like 30 songs. Why even count?

They just kept coming … “It’s So Easy” … “Slither” … “Mr. Brownstone” … “You Could Be Mine” … “Welcome To The Jungle” … “Live and Let Die” … “November Rain” … “Sweet Child O’ Mine” … “Knocking On Heaven’s Door” … and “Paradise City.”

Slash was masterful with his guitar as always, and Axl … well … he not only hit those notes and screams …

You could see it on his face …

He was enjoying the moment.

https://mercedcountytimes.com/guns-n-roses-takes-aftershock-fans-home-on-final-day-4-of-festival/
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Full show (great quality):

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Post by Blackstar Thu Oct 19, 2023 2:35 am

Review in Pop Matters, Oct. 18:
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Guns N’ Roses Bring Shockwaves to the Aftershock Festival

Few other bands have impacted rock like Guns N’ Roses with their incendiary sound and timeless songbook that continues to resonate 30-plus years later.

By Greg M. Schwartz

It’s a scorching 92-degree Sunday afternoon in Sacramento, and “Rocktober” has arrived in a big way with the Aftershock Festival, which concludes here at Discovery Park on the eighth day of the month. Northern California has become known for a slew of rock ‘n’ roll activity in the tenth month of the calendar year, and 2023 is no different, with no less than Guns N’ Roses headlining the final night of this four-day hard rock fiesta. Hence, many fans will travel from the Bay Area up to Sacramento and back down to catch Guns N’ Roses in their only Northern California appearance of the year.

The Aftershock Festival launched in 2012 and has grown to become one of the premier hard rock and heavy metal festivals in the US. The previous three days have featured the likes of Avenged Sevenfold, Incubus, the Cult, Stone Temple Pilots, Tool, Godsmack, Coheed & Cambria, L7, Megadeth, Korn, Limp Bizkit, and 311. Now fans are ready to rock a Sunday Funday highlighted by Rancid, Queens of the Stone Age, and Guns N’ Roses.

The legendary Los Angeles rockers are coming in hot off a high-profile appearance at the Power Trip Festival in the Southern California desert 48 hours earlier on an extended 2023 tour that has seen the band continue to rock the planet as few others can. Few other groups have impacted the rock ‘n’ roll landscape like Guns N’ Roses, with their incendiary sound that disrupted the music industry in the late 1980s and their timeless songbook that continues to resonate 30-plus years later.

After the breakthrough success of their instant classic debut album Appetite for Destruction in 1987-1988, the anticipation for Guns N’ Roses’s second album grew to a level unlikely ever to be matched again. When a series of delays forced the band to hit the road for their 1991 summer tour before the Use Your Illusion double albums could be released, it was a situation that would have ruined most bands – having to go on tour and play a slew of new songs that most fans had never heard and had no reference point for.

But the material was so uniformly strong that it didn’t matter, as the band crushed it so hard every night that fans loved every minute (except for those angst-filled lost minutes when shows were starting late or ending early due to singer Axl Rose‘s notorious mood swings.) When the Illusion albums were finally released in September 1991, fans lined up around the block at record stores across America for quite possibly the most cathartic album release in rock history.

When Rose and iconic guitarist Slash finally buried the hatchet to reunite along with indefatigable bassist Duff McKagan in 2016 for their first tour together since 1993, the shows had a similar feeling of catharsis as Guns N’ Roses reclaimed their crown as one of the greatest rock bands. While new material has remained elusive, it turned out that the back catalog was as classic as fans sensed the first time around.

The fanbase is thus turning out in strong numbers here at Aftershock. Discovery Park has a decent amount of shade, much to the credit of festival organizers who knew what they were doing when they chose this location with lots of trees. Many attendees are thus taking advantage of the shade to chill out and rest up during the undercard in the afternoon’s earlier hours before the big names come on with Rancid at 5:00 pm, Queens of the Stone Age at 6:00 pm and Guns N’ Roses scheduled from 7:25 to 10:25 pm.

Would the Gunners really play a three-hour set? This reporter witnessed a historic three-hour, 36-minute show from Guns N’ Roses at the LA Forum on 3 August 1991, an epic rager for the ages that concluded the band’s 1991 summer tour in truly monumental fashion. A three-hour set at a festival would be extremely rare, but who knows? [...]

The scheduled one-hour set from Queens of the Stone Age concludes on time at 7:20. Then the waiting begins as 7:25 comes and goes, then 7:35, and 7:45. Some fans start getting restless around that 20-minute mark, with Axl Rose having been notorious for delayed showtimes on the band’s Use Your Illusion tour from 1991-1993. Yet Rose has been on good behavior since the 2016 reunion. Guns N’ Roses finally hit the stage at 8:00 pm with “It’s So Easy”, and all is quickly forgiven.

“Bad Obsession” is the first of nine songs from the Illusion albums, and it sizzles with Slash’s smoking slide guitar work. “Chinese Democracy” and Velvet Revolver’s “Slither” keep things rocking, but it’s that timeless funky ode to getting high with “Mr. Brownstone” that provides the next big crowd-pleaser. “Pretty Tied Up” demonstrates the depth of the Illusion albums with its scintillating tale about “the perils of rock ‘n’ roll decadence”, as Guns N’ Roses were already foreshadowing their demise in real-time. McKagan’s tight heavy groove stands out here, while Slash slays some wicked melty wah-wah leads.

When Guns N’ Roses drop their breakthrough classic “Welcome to the Jungle”, it feels downright bizarre due to the audience’s reaction. As on the 2016 “Not in This Lifetime” tour, there’s an incredulous majority of fans holding up their cellphones to take a video of the opening minutes instead of furiously rocking out as Guns fans did back in the day. Yet, while this lends a bizarre Brave New World vibe to the moment, it’s also a testament to how “Jungle” has become a larger-than-life song in the broader pop culture landscape.

For fans longing for new material from Guns N’ Roses, the new single “Perhaps”, released this summer, stands out. It’s got an Illusion type of vibe with its blend of hard rock and piano, and it’s even co-written by the entire current touring lineup with guitarist Richard Fortus, drummer Frank Ferrer, and keyboardists Dizzy Reed and Melissa Reese receiving writing credit along with Axl, Slash, and Duff. Yet further research indicates it was originally recorded during Chinese Democracy sessions in 2000. The seemingly new “Hard Skool” released in 2021 likewise dates back to Chinese Democracy sessions. But it’s still refreshing to hear Guns N’ Roses mixing it up a bit. “Better” is one of the better songs from the album that was finally released by Axl in 2008, and it completes a trifecta interlude of sorts.

Guns N’ Roses then deliver another shockwave for Aftershock with the hell-raising “Double Talkin’ Jive”. Written by original rhythm guitarist Izzy Stradlin, it’s great to see the song remain in the repertoire because it straight-up destroys. It’s a simple song to play on the guitar, but the wicked riffage and heavy groove make for one of the group’s best headbangers, as well as an excellent platform for Slash to melt face with some of his hottest lead guitar work of the night.

It’s moments like this – with Slash slaying at such a high level as to demonstrate he’s still one of the greatest guitarists in the world – where the transcendent rock power of Guns N’ Roses really comes into focus. Slash always rips, and he’s great to catch at more intimate venues with his own band, such as last year’s show at San Francisco’s Warfield Theater. But a unique sonic alchemy occurs when Slash, Duff, and Axl rock out on these classic Guns N’ Roses tunes, generating a mesmerizing effect transcending time and space.

Guns N’ Roses are lit now and keep rolling on the smoking groove of “You Could Be Mine” and the ever-dynamic “Rocket Queen”, with Duff crushing the signature bass lines. Axl’s emoting on the “Rocket Queen” outro is ever heartwarming, even if he might not have quite the same range now at age 61 as he did in Guns N’ Roses’s heyday. He’s still got one of the most original voices in rock, though, and getting his mojo back in 2016 has made for a great third act after two decades that were largely wasted.

That mojo stands out on “Estranged”, the epic ballad from Use Your Illusion II that can still hit deep in the feels for anyone who might have gone through a tough breakup in the early ’90s (or in any era). The song has always shined like a gem in the live setting with the crisp piano parts, the “killer guitar melodies” from Slash (credited by Axl in the liner notes), and Axl’s mesmerizing vocals as he laments a devastating heartbreak. Along with “November Rain”, “Estranged” broke the mold of the typical pop metal power ballad by delivering a truly powerful ballad instead of just overproduced cliches like so many of Guns N’ Roses’ peers churned out.

Another peak moment occurs with “Civil War”, which resonates with an extra zeitgeist in the wake of the Middle East conflict that has flared up over the previous 24 hours with the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel. The song has resonated through the decades as one of the most powerful in rock history, proving Axl Rose to be quite frankly woke as fuck long before the phrase became trendy in recent years. When he sings out about how he doesn’t want a war “that feeds the rich while it buries the poor”, it’s a statement against all war, like classic predecessors such as Bob Dylan’s “Masters of War”, Black Sabbath’s “War Pigs”, and Jimi Hendrix’s “Machine Gun”.

Guns N’ Roses have always told their fans the truth, whether it be their sordid true tales of life in Hollywood in the mid-’80s in songs like “My Michelle”, to the more profound truth in “Civil War” (and it’s fitting that McKagan and his wife Susan host a weekly show on Sirius XM Radio titled “Three Chords and the Truth”.) Seeing a slew of US Congresspeople currently profiting off stock in military defense companies that are rising due to the conflicts in Israel and Ukraine is downright appalling. It could well be the topic of a timely sequel to “Civil War”.

The opening track from Use Your Illusion II originally appeared on the radio in 1990 as a single from the charity album Nobody’s Child: Romanian Angel Appeal. The compilation put together by George and Olyvia Harrison benefited Romanian orphans suffering after the fall of communism in the Soviet Union. There’s going to be plenty of suffering orphans in Gaza, Israel, and Ukraine, and so “Civil War” hits deep as ever here with Slash shredding hot molten lava in a way that recalls Hendrix on “Machine Gun”, as fans rock out on one of the night’s best jams. Slash includes a “Voodoo Child” tease at the end, as he often does, and it’s one of the top moments in rock in 2023 to hear Guns N’ Roses crush “Civil War” as this world gone mad descends into further chaos.

“Sweet Child of Mine” shifts the vibe with the classic romantic rocker that elevated Guns N’ Roses to superstardom in the summer of 1988, and it sounds great here on this balmy night in Sacramento. Axl flips the script by following with “November Rain”, the other epic piano-driven ballad from Use Your Illusion I that predates Appetite From Destruction. Fans eager to hear more material from Guns N’ Roses during the long wait for the Illusion albums could find a tape circulating with covers and deep cuts, including an acoustic version of “November Rain” with a genuinely poignant vocal from Axl. That recording is one of 25 tracks from the 1986 Sound City Session restored for the Super Deluxe Edition of Appetite From Destruction, providing a fascinating portal to the band’s roots.

“November Rain” rocks the night here as another of those timeless, universal tunes that make Guns N’ Roses so unique and special because there’s hardly anyone writing epic songs like this anymore. They keep the hits coming with their ever-powerful version of Dylan’s “Knocking on Heaven’s Door”, a song they came to own for many fans, similar to how Jimi Hendrix delivered the ultimate version of “All Along the Watchtower”. Dylan may not have gone on record about Guns N’ Roses’ version like he praised Jimi’s “Watchtower”, but he has gone on record to praise Duff McKagan’s 2019 socio-political gem “Chip Away” as a song that has “profound meaning” for him.

It’s getting close to 10:30 pm as the set truly steams toward a conclusion with “Nightrain”, the classic ode to getting drunk on cheap wine. There were lots of hard rock bands singing about getting wasted in the late ’80s, but few of those songs had this level of sincerity, swagger, and electrifying energy. It sets up a big finale with the obligatory romp through “Paradise City”, the other song from Appetite From Destruction that helped propel Guns N’ Roses into mainstream popularity because it was so catchy and hard-hitting that it became an anthem for teens and college kids across the nation.

Looking up “Paradise City” on Spotify, there’s an array of covers, including a symphony version, a string orchestral version, a string quartet version, a piano version, a lullaby version, an 8-bit emulation version, and even a Yogi version! That is straight-up pop culture domination, demonstrating how Guns N’ Roses have transcended the hard rock genre to become one of the most iconic bands in music history. It’s an impressive journey for a group that started as just the new favorite of metalhead stoners in the 1987-1988 school year. The set winds up being just over two and a half hours long, and the Aftershock audience is satisfied at the end, for this has been another bravura performance from Guns N’ Roses. Thank you, Sacramento!

Whether we’ll get a new album from Guns N’ Roses remains a nebulous proposition. The lack of new material certainly doesn’t lie with Slash (who has released two further albums with Myles Kennedy and the Conspirators since 2016), nor with Duff, who has his third solo album, Lighthouse, coming out on 20 October. The first three singles are winners, suggesting a great LP that blends Duff’s punk rock roots with an Americana-flavored acoustic rock style he attributes to jam sessions in the mid-’90s with the late great Mark Lanegan of Screaming Trees after McKagan got sober after his rockstar-level boozing nearly killed him.

But who knows what goes on in Axl Rose’s mind regarding the songwriting process? The fact that Chinese Democracy apparently took him more than a decade to feel like he had it right suggests a neurosis that might best be left alone. Maybe he and Slash don’t have that kind of friendship and creative chemistry anymore after their long estrangement. Or perhaps he’ll flip the script again and surprise everyone – the world sure could use that sequel to “Civil War” right about now. But the bottom line is that the rock ‘n’ roll world is better off having Guns N’ Roses back together, as all the happy faces exiting the Aftershock Festival can clearly attest.

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